Five colour photographs taken during the 1950s. Not the best of photography, I fear, but possibly useful for the record.
Ian Thompson
02/2020
Taken at Hastings in 1957, a Maidstone and District 1936 Leyland TD4 CKE 418, with a 1950 Beadle body that at the time I took to be original because of its prewar look.
Also taken in 1957, an East Kent 1947 Dennis Lancet J3 with Park Royal body.
Taken at Endless St bus station in May 1956, a pair of Wilts and Dorset 1940 Bristol K5Gs with ECW bodies. The 4+4-riser right-angled staircase differed from the winding stairs on our Thames Valley prewar K5Gs.
Taken at Lymington in the 1950s, a pair of Hants and Dorset Morris-Commercial single-deckers, a prewar K5G and a postwar K (also 5G?), both with ECW bodies.
Taken at Newbury in about 1957, a Reliance of Newbury (ex-Thames Valley) 1937 Leyland TS7 with 32-seat ECW body. On the web this morning I found a nice b&w picture of a sister ship to the M&D Titan.
A fascinating group of photos taken at a time when colour photography wasn’t the norm. Thx for posting, Ian.
It’s surprising that the 1950 Beadle in the first photo should have a 6-bay body, when you consider that four-bay ones were being built in the very late thirties! In all respects, it looks old-fashioned.
The two Hants and Dorset Morris Commercial/Beadle single deckers in the fourth photo rang a bell with me and I recall that quite a lot of detail on these were in an OBP post in 2012. Here it is: West Yorkshire – Morris Commercial – HYG 972 – 618
Chris Hebbron
20/02/20 – 15:45
Thanks for posting these photos, Ian. As a (very) youthful resident in rural Kent from 1946 to 1949 I encountered the buses of both Maidstone & District and East Kent. I recall with particular fondness the Dennis Lancets that would take me on rides from Faversham to Herne Bay, where the enormously lengthy pier rivalled that at Southend, but now, like the Lancets, sadly long gone. Those Dennisses were of the pre war Lancet II variety, probably of the 1939 vintage AJG 46-59 batch, powered by the smooth running four cylinder O4 engine, and I loved them. In moving towards diesels, EK initially trialled the then new O4 against the Gardner 5LW before opting for the Dennis engine, surely a testament of its quality and reliability. The Dennis company was an engineering business of very high order. I have a less sharp recollection of the Maidstone & District ‘deckers as the village of Doddington was served by Tiger TS2 petrol and TS7 or TS8 diesels, but I did encounter the M & D Guy Arab utilities and the Chatham & District Bristols on visits to the Medway towns. Turning to the Hants & Dorset picture, the postwar K could be either a K5G or a K6A, but the registration, rather difficult to establish for certain, might be GLJ 965, a K5G of 1947. The two buses in the Wilts & Dorset picture both have that style of staircase; was this a W & D standard of the time?
Roger Cox
21/02/20 – 06:27
During the war Beadle constructed bodies using up stocks of ready held parts, and the 1930s style design closely resembled that on the Maidstone & District double deck TD4 picture. The registration CKE 418 makes this a 1935 chassis. I am very surprised that the body shown dates from 1950, but this picture of fellow bus CKE 414 makes the same claim. www.flickr.com/photos/
This immediately predates the time that some BET companies embarked with Beadle upon the rebuilding certain prewar chassis into full fronted saloons and coaches. Did Beadle supply the 1950 double deck bodies as a tempter perhaps?
Roger Cox
08/08/20 – 06:28
The CKE 418 Maidstone and District photo is a positive gem of a photograph, made even more remarkable by the fact it is in colour; I wonder if Ian had any idea of its rarity?
Hastings garage usually received a couple of extra double deckers in the summer months to cover enhanced summer holiday workings although these were normally Bristol K6A highbridge models. Lowbridge DL 286 in the picture along with DL 285 arrived in June I think 1957 and were instantly disliked by both staff and passengers who were not used to lowbridge vehicles. They stayed only a matter of weeks so for Phil to capture one is really special. Both were sold to a dealer a month later and passed to Contract Bus Services, this one last being noted in 1961 after a total of 26 years service.
The Beadle replacement bodies to the rather old fashioned style were fitted in 1946 I believe.
By an extraordinary piece of serendipity, a photo appears on your site of another lowbridge M&D bus (VKR 35) sent to Hastings for the summer in 1970 and snapped in Bexhill in 1970. This fared no better, lasting only a few weeks before being quickly returned.
Leon Coast
23/04/22 – 06:06
Regarding comments on CKE 418 a lowbridge Leyland TD in Hastings. The batch CKE 413-8 were rebodied in 1946 not 1950.
Southdown Motor Services had some similar examples. Sister vehicle CKE 417 that was at Hastings at the same time was noted by myself on M&D route 34 (Hastings – Battle – Bexhill) one morning during that period.
Roy V Simmons
08/06/22 – 05:52
Thanks for the rebodying date correction, Roy and Leon.
Ian Thompson
03/08/22 – 06:40
The Hants & Dorset post war Bristol K (HRU 865) is a K6A, fleet number 1209 which spent most, if not all of its eighteen year working life based at Lymington depot.
Peter Elliott