Chiltern Queens – Dennis Pelican – 530 BPG


Copyright Ray Soper

Chiltern Queens of Woodcote
1956
Dennis Pelican
Duple Midland B44F

This shot is from the Ray Soper gallery contribution titled “Chiltern Queens of Woodcote” click on the title if you would like to view his Gallery and comments.
The shot is shown here for indexing purposes but please feel free to make any comment regarding this vehicle either here or on the gallery.


04/07/14 – 07:46

This is the ex demonstrator which was tried out by LT in the Reigate and Caterham areas and also by A&D.
Dennis received no orders and 530BPG was purchased by Yellow Bus Services of Stoughton, Guildford in March 1957, following their vehicles in 1958 it went to Daisy Bus Service and the Trimdon Motor Services before moving to Chiltern Queens,
The body was removed and transferred in modified form to an AEC chassis in around the mid ’70s.
The Dennis chassis was seen on waste ground outside Charlton Queens garage in 1976.
Source: “Happy Family” “The story of Yellow Bus Services Stoughton” by N Hamshere and J Sutton. No ISBN number unfortunately.

John Lomas


04/07/14 – 16:24

The Reliance with this body on it was offered for sale in Bus & Coach Preservation a few years ago, and was stated to be “50% restored”. Does anybody know where it is now?

Neville Mercer


05/07/14 – 17:32

David Kaye, in “Meccano Magazine” of February 1963, on his “Calling all Bus Spotters” page, said that the Pelican was designed to compete with UF single deck market, with vehicles such as the Leyland Tiger Cub, Royal Tiger and Olympic and the ubiquitous AEC Reliance, but was too late on the scene to achieve any success. After Yellow Bus were taken over by Aldershot & District, the vehicle went firstly to TMS and then Daisy of Brigg. With no mention of Chiltern Queens, it’s possible that that move took place after Feb 1963.

Chris Hebbron


06/07/14 – 08:19

As Chris indicates, the only problem with the Pelican was its late arrival, in the autumn of 1956, on a market already dominated by the Reliance and the Tiger Cub, and, at the lighter end, by Bedford. The boom years were already over, and Dennis simply missed the boat. The company recognised the reality of the situation by not putting the Pelican into production. The Guildford firm could not compete on price with AEC and Leyland, though it equalled, and sometimes bettered both on quality. In specification, the Pelican, with its 5.5 litre engine uprated to some 92 bhp and five speed constant mesh gearbox, seemed to be directed particularly at the Tiger Cub market. The Leyland had the 91 bhp O350H engine of 5.76 litres and, initially, only a four speed constant mesh gearbox was available, though a two speed axle was an option. Where driver acceptance was concerned, the Reliance beat all others hands down with its excellent all synchromesh five speed gearbox. It also had the more powerful 6.75 litre AEC AH 410 of 98 bhp, or the 7.685 litre AH 470 of 112 bhp, but these AEC wet liner engines proved to be decidedly troublesome. When bodied, all three competing models weighed about 6 tons unladen. Leyland captured much of the early BET business, but AEC soon worked its way into the company, municipal and independent sectors. There was nowhere for Dennis to go, and it wisely bowed out of the fray. (There was surely a lesson here for Guy with the Wulfrunian.) Nevertheless, the solitary Pelican then went on to a fully productive life of some eighteen years or so, which surely testifies to the initial quality of the engineering and also to the subsequent support by Dennis to keep this unique machine running.

Roger Cox


15/08/14 – 10:45

I was in Woodcote earlier this week and noticed a planning application to demolish the old depot / garage to be replaced by a small housing estate….
To be honest, I didn’t realise that it was still there and thought that it was long since converted to industrial units….
Those who might want final nostalgic visit have about eight weeks before demolition….

Stuart C

Chiltern Queens – AEC Reliance – LMO 743


Copyright Ray Soper

Chiltern Queens of Woodcote
1955
AEC Reliance MU3RV
Duple Midland B44F

This shot is from the Ray Soper gallery contribution titled “Chiltern Queens of Woodcote” click on the title if you would like to view his Gallery and comments.
The shot is shown here for indexing purposes but please feel free to make any comment regarding this vehicle either here or on the gallery.


07/03/13 – 17:33

This photo brings back many memories of school trips between Didcot Station and Wallingford Grammar School 1959 – 61 after which I moved to Wimbledon. From memory LMO 743 ran the best out of the 3 and was often driven by a young driver known as Nelson who had a novel way of changing gear particularly from 1st to 2nd without the customary pause – how he did it I know not but it made for a lively ride. NBW 407 was also used (quite new at the time) and was treated more gently. If we went the Whittenham way, the old Maudslay & Tilling Stevens half cabs were used such as DBW 66 & DUD 401 & NPA 461.

Richard Anscombe


09/10/13 – 08:20

My father drove one of these for Chiltern Queens between 1957-1961, three buses of this model; LMO 743, LMO744 and LMO745 were driven by Nelson Prior, Des Spokes and my father Bill Pearson. I have a photo of my father stood by one on lay over at the old Polish camp at Ipsden heath, Checkendon. The route was polish camp to Checkendon, to Exslade street to Kidmore end (The Fox) to Reforation pub turn to Whitehouse green to Chalkhouse green to Emmergreen to Caversham to Reading station. On his return journey as a kid I would wait at the bus stop at Parkside in Checkendon my father would pick me up and take me to his terminus; Polish camp where he would eat is lunch of which my mother would send with me for him, just think this was approx 54 years ago? seems like y/day.

Len